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DADDY-O - who is he?

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DADDY-O - who is he?

Postby gastritis » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:29 am

Неу buddies.
Let me ask you one question. ohyeah!
Can someone give a kind of full and correct explanation what does the word "daddy-o" mean? I mean its origin, ethimology, "birth date" and so on. Not "it's almost the same as "daddy" but a real "scientific" explanation. Or maybe someone can give links where I'll find information about it? I'd be very grateful!
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Postby Alfaspica » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:03 pm

Yes, also I'm interested already to the slang.

Also "mama"...

In Blues mama I think it means a "bitch" woman
working in a barrelhouse often which she which begins
young men at the sex.

and remeber that jazz was played in the barrelhouse
in order to entertain the customers.

In the culture of the early '900 it's many diffuse
this practical.

I think that "Daddy" has a sexual meant:
an man mature for a young girl...

listenings many "mama"and "daddy" songs
I have made this personal idea.

I'm waiting for explanation of experts!


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Postby 4140 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:13 pm

DADDY-O - who is he?


I don't know, but i'm his brother =D

Now serious - it is somewhat equivalent to today's "dude" or "man" but with a much cooler zen-bohemian and/or streetwise hipster attitude. (the wording is from the www.urbandictionary.com)

for "mama" it's "a very attractive woman"

Cheers! :gocats:
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Postby Dan » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:35 pm

Daddy-O was a name you called at a cool guy in the fifties and still used in the rockabillyscene nowadays. It was however used for the first time (as far as I know) in the jazzscene in the 40s. There is a song from that period called Daddy-O performed by Louis Jordan amongst others.

There are people who are saying the origin is from the irish folksong Whiskey in the Jar but it's not sure they were singing Daddy-O or Daddy-Ol way back then. Metallica covered it a few years agoand it seems they sing daddy-o...Personaly I think it's 'founded' in the 40s in the jazzscene...

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Postby uhwelluh » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:16 pm

Interesting stuff. I did some poking around on allmusic--the song "I'm a Ding Dong Daddy from Dumas" emerged in the early 30s & seems to've been fairly popular. From the lyrics, looks like he's equivalent to a "player" nowadays (though it seems to be poking fun at his over-amorous ways as well). Hey, there's even a mama in there.

DING DONG DADDY FROM DUMAS
(Baxter)

Recorded by : Louis Armstrong; Lawrence Brown; Eddie Condon;
Arthur Godfrey; Benny Goodman; Phil Harris: Eddy Howard;
Ben Pollack; Somethin' Smith; Squadronaires; Bob Wills


Now, I know all, you all don't know who I is
Because I just got here today
My hometown is a little town
Way down Dixie way

Now, everybody down there from miles around
All calls me by my name
Now that I'm up here
In your big city
I sure wish you'd all do the same

Because I'm a ding dong daddy from Dumas
And you oughtta see me do my stuff
Why, I'm a clean cut fella
From Hohner's Corner
Ooh, you oughtta see me strut

I'm a paper cuttin' cutie
Got a gal called, Katy
She's a little, heavy lady
And I call her baby

I'm a ding dong daddy from Dumas
And you oughtta see me do my stuff
Yes, a ding dong daddy from Dumas
And you oughtta see me do my stuff

I'm a ping pong papa from Pitchfork Prairie
Oughtta see me strut

I'm a ding dong daddy
Got a whiz bang mama
She's a Bear Creek baby
And a whompous kitty

I'm a ding dong daddy from Dumas
And you oughtta see me do my stuff

-Instrumental Break-

Just a ding dong daddy from Dumas
Ooh, you oughtta see me do my stuff

I'm a cornpone popper
And an apple knocker
You oughtta see me strut
I'm a momma lovin' man
And I just left Mary
She's a big blonde baby
From Peanut Prairie

I'm a ding dong daddy from Dumas now
And you oughtta see me do my stuff

-Instrumental Break-

Just a rinky dinky daddy from the Dumas
Who you'll see me doin' my stuff

I'm a peach pie papa
From Jackson's Holla
Ah, you oughtta see me strut

I'm a honey drippin' daddy
Got a hard-hearted baby
She's a sheep shakin' Sheba
And hallelujah!

I'm a ding dong daddy from Dumas
And you oughtta see me strut!

As for "Daddy-O," looks like that didn't appear as a song title until the mid-'40s (Benny Carter & Louis Jordan did versions). I agree that it probably came through musicians lingo, just playing around with the word Daddy--I'll have to listen to Louis Jordan's version later tonight. From what I remember, it seems to be a term of endearment to call somebody "Daddy-O," but there's also a mocking undercurrent.

There was a lame movie from the late '50s called Daddy-O that Mystery Science Theater 3000 does a great job making fun of. I think it might be posted on youtube.
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Postby t99 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:33 pm

cool lyrics but different from the bob wills version that i know and in the bob wills version they refer to dumas as dumas bay which is a town in texas. just a little extra info
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Postby gastritis » Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:19 am

thank you all, men!
so good to know more of something interesting... ohyeah!
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Postby Alfaspica » Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:34 pm

4140 wrote:
DADDY-O - who is he?


I don't know, but i'm his brother =D

Now serious - it is somewhat equivalent to today's "dude" or "man" but with a much cooler zen-bohemian and/or streetwise hipster attitude. (the wording is from the www.urbandictionary.com)

for "mama" it's "a for "mama" it's "a very attractive woman" for "mama" it's "a very attractive woman" "

Cheers! :gocats:



Very interesting expleination,
I think that for mama the acttractive quality is
to be a "very available woman"..

I don't undestand for daddy is an magician similar figure?

magician in the slang of many countries means
the pusher of the dope.
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Postby pwurp » Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:53 pm

Now look what all that talk about attractive available women got us!
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Postby Alfaspica » Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:46 pm

=D yes I look!
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Postby JouJoux » Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:11 pm

in my view Daddy-O means "Luiz Oak" and this is enough for me.

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Postby silentbacchus » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:04 pm

Couple of comments on this subject. I'm sure it was picked up before the thirties to say daddy-o. You're right that daddy has been around since the turn of the century. During the 1910's there was a popular fad of girls using baby talk, refer to songs like:
"Don't Leave Me Daddy"
"Snookey Ookums" by Irving Berlin
"I can't Stop babying You" sung by Billy Murray
"When the grown Up Ladies Talk Like Babies" also sung by Billy Murray.
So this trend continued into the twenties and the talkies with characters like Betty Boop and actresses like Clara Bow and Mae Quesnal.
So most likely the term arose during this fad and later came to mean a hipster in the forties. ie "are you hep to the jive, daddy-o" Momma as a hot woman has been around since the 1890's in southern music.
Another point to share with gastritis is the difference between a barrelhouse and a whorehouse.
A barrelhouse is a legal or illegal bar where beer is kept on tap from the barrel it was shipped in. Often they were in barns, warehouses, or other decrepit buildings and were a low class bar or "dive".

Whorehouses were for prostitution only. Often there was a bar, sometimes just drinks sold from the backroom. Normally rooms upstairs were for clients and ladies. A madam or pimp ran the whore house and accounted for the money, food, bills, and often paid off police. Whorehouses are also called cathouses, pussyhouses, sportinghouses, cribs, and houses of ill-repute.
flophouse was an empty house where vagrants and drug addicts slept.
In New Orleans French Quarter, many of the prostitution houses were very poor and sometimes they were just one room with a door opening to the street. The ladies would call for customers on the street and they would close the shutters too service the men. The nice fancy whorehouses were in storyville in New Orleans, named for a politician (James Story) who wanted to contain all the corruption and crime in one district. The "sporting house" was a fine gentlemens club with crystal chandeliers, grand pianos, european furniture, often with musicians playing and gambling in the front parlous and ladies that would offer menus of their particular specialties for the gents. There was actually a directory published of the whorehouses for tourists in the early 1900's. It was on blue paper and was called a blue book. Laws regulating prostitution in the early 1900's adopted this book as an example of the corruption and so the laws became known as blue laws, many of which are still in effect today.
Here in Lake Charles there were several whorehouses that our city council wanted to shut down in the 1910's. Well the madams found out and they marched into city hall during a council meeting and threw down a list of names of prominent citizens who frequented their businesses. Most of the councilmens names were on the first page. Needless to say they were not shut down and flourished here for many years!
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Postby gastritis » Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:16 am

thanks a lot, silentbacchus! :thumbs:
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Postby Alfaspica » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:02 am

wow, this is an esaustive expleination.

Silentbacchus, I will edit your post
in Rockhall forum, some rocker friends
could be interest at your exposition. :thumbs:
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Postby silentbacchus » Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:23 pm

sure thing, i don't mind people using my writing if they ask nicely!!!
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Postby silentbacchus » Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:47 pm

http://home.earthlink.net/~dlarkins/slang-pg.htm

some of you may enjoy this site about jazz age slang!
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Postby Dan » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:05 pm

Thanks Bachus for this great story! That's what i like about this forum not only sharing but also talk about the music (and learn a lesson or two) ohyeah!
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Postby JouJoux » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:58 pm

silentbacchus wrote:http://home.earthlink.net/~dlarkins/slang-pg.htm
some of you may enjoy this site about jazz age slang!


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Postby Don Moore » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:56 pm

Your quest for information led me to the following link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daddy-O While this definitely does not answer the question of word origin it does bring up some interesting facts. I was especially impressed to find that John Williams wrote the musical score for the movie "Daddy-0" way back in 1958.

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Postby Don Moore » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:58 pm

Your quest for information led me to the following link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daddy-O While this definitely does not answer the question of word origin it does bring up some interesting facts. I was especially impressed to find that John Williams wrote the musical score for the movie "Daddy-0" way back in 1958.

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Postby silentbacchus » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:16 pm

Yeah, wikipedia cites Daddy-o, BUT it was definitely in usage before that movie, the fact that they made a movie with the title just shows that it was in popular and common enough usage that a movie could be titled that and people would understand what it meant and what the movie was possibly about. Also notice the strange apostrophes around the o (DADDY-'O') which probably means that the O was a reference to a character in the movie or that the O reference was still strange enough to the general public that it needed some quotes around it.
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Postby uhwelluh » Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:07 am

Here's a link to the Mystery Science Theater 3000 version of Daddy-O (which starts about 14 minutes into the episode).
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